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Papa Django
CosmoTeK LTD
La Division Bleue
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Posted - 2014.10.14 10:22:00 -
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Mister Tuggles wrote:
And to people saying you risk losing everything if you get sieged... This isn't really a problem now. I know a few of the large c5/6 corps still attack each other (ADHOC losing their entire system recently), but for the most part no one is going to waste their time attacking anything under a c5. You have no real risk in that department.
I have seen / been commited in 5 evictions attempt in wh <=C4 in 4 or 5 months.
It happens ...
From the POV of a small wh corp CEO trying to build a wh corp in low class wh, it is ... So ******* hard.
Reasons are well known :
1- risk vs reward balance is bad in low class
2- Hyperion release is a disaster for small corp
3- Nothing can be done solo
4- Skills needed for pilot (T3 mandatory)
5- Skills & knowledge need for the player (lots of things to know)
Reasons 1, 2 and 3 could be fixed by CCP.
Reasons 4 et 5 are just nice as it is.
If you want more people in low class wh, up the blue loots reward and remove Hyperion (mass based jump distance especially).
It is the only way. |
Papa Django
CosmoTeK LTD
La Division Bleue
38
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Posted - 2014.10.14 12:16:00 -
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Bronya Boga wrote:
2. No it didn't. Its an illusion. Stop regurgitating this misconception.
It is a disaster. We have lost the ability to roll quickly connexions. It is too time consuming now.
Controlling the environement is a core basic in wormhole exploitation.
Bronya Boga wrote:
3. Also a lie. Check J110706.
What can i check instead of the kb with your system name ?
Bronya Boga wrote:
4. T3 arent mendatory. Thats an old standard.
They are. We try to play with low skilled pilots in BC and it is a pain. We do it anyway because we want to bring more people in wspace, especially new players, but it is hard.
Bronya Boga wrote:
5. A week tops is what needed to know the basics
I don't know what you put under the basics but to train an autonomous wormhole player it takes months. |
Papa Django
CosmoTeK LTD
La Division Bleue
38
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Posted - 2014.10.14 14:37:00 -
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Bronya Boga wrote:
30 seconds is too long for you?
30sec to roll a hole ? Come on plz ... You are just trolling.
Bronya Boga wrote:
Not my system but a solo astero stayed there for a few days solo got a bunch of kills. Or maybe you never seen Baby Dadys work. Go to the youtube channel Deciple of Bob. You will see A lot of solo in whs.
Ok you have a solo astero player able to gank solo. Congratulations  .
Bronya Boga wrote:
Its easy I dont understand why its hard for you.
BC cant tank sleepers BS for example. The last waves in C3 data/relic are dangerous without a properly remote setup.
BC are ok for combat ano in C1 to C3.
But they need very good intel because they are too slow to w/o. DS usage is not a safe method to protect against gank. You need a scout on each connexion in the system. And new players have not usually others account to do that. So they need support from vet guys.
It's not an easy thing.
Bronya Boga wrote:
Explain polarity = 10 minutes
Explain mass and time = 20 minutes
Explain proper scouting = 30 minutes.
BOOM. done. jesus christ well you look at that 60 minutes to teach the basics. Take the rest of the 167 hours and get a bit better about it.
First, most people don't handle a new concept the first time, they need one, two or three time the same information again.
Second you forgot a lot of things :
- what is a static, how to find the core data of each connexion type (mass & duration)
- how to set up wh dedicated overviews
- how to deal with POS
- how to set up a fit for wh farm, fit for wh pvp, fit for wh logi,
- how to fastly scan down a system
- how to use third party tool to share the intel data
- how to use bookmarks
- how to scout safely a POS
- how to find a guy in wspace only with dscan
- how to takes advantage of sensor overlay in a pvp context
- what kind of data we need when encountering other player in wh (corp info, kb, is in a wh group so need to know the main wh entities)
- the differences between wspace and kspace pvp
- how to pve relatively safely regarding to your ship type
- how to roll a hole
- etc ... i forgot surely things here
There is plenty of things needed to be repeated many times because it is not possible for a person to learn all theses things instantly. |
Papa Django
CosmoTeK LTD
La Division Bleue
38
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Posted - 2014.10.14 16:20:00 -
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Marox Calendale wrote:Papa Django wrote:[quote=Bronya Boga]
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BC cant tank sleepers BS for example. The last waves in C3 data/relic are dangerous without a properly remote setup.
BC are ok for combat ano in C1 to C3.
... Try C4 Sites with Nagas. Take a Fleet with 2 Basilisk and 1 or 2 HAM Tengus for the frigates and at least a Minimum of 5 or 6 Nagas. We used to do C4 Sites in that configuration in about 4 - 7 Minutes each.
Thx for the tips, let me give you one. With 20 bombers you can clean a wave in 10 sec (the bomb flight time). Usefull huh ?
@Bronya Boga
Ok you close a hole in 60 sec, you are my new hero. |
Papa Django
CosmoTeK LTD
La Division Bleue
40
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Posted - 2014.10.15 15:59:00 -
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Bronya Boga wrote:
<- Small corp. Still roll with orcas. It takes 15 seconds. Quit exaggerating
Also if you cant afford an orca you are doing wormholes wrong
A corp able to roll a 2bil mass connexion in 15 sec is not a small corp.
It needs 4 orca and 4 orca pilot to do that, (And it takes closer to a few mins then 15 secs) and i don't count scout and ECM support.
Stop writing garbage things plz. |
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